Author Topic: Collective Subject Policy Change (Read 136743 times)

TeraS · « **on:** March 28, 2014, 07:55:31 PM »

The Collective is changing it's subject matter policy!

After due consideration by the Collective Admins and Mods, we are changing the Collective's focus to open up the Collective to all and any subject matter. Female, Male, Transgender subjects are now acceptable to be posted.

This change is effective March 28th, 2014.

There is, however, a short list of items that are not allowed. The still banned subject matter are as follows:

Underaged Content - Any persons or characters that are under 18 years of age are not acceptable. This includes anime characters as well. If you do not know the character's age, then don't post the image please! Also, any actresses who have "just turned 18" will be removed. Just because they are 18 now does not mean the image you are using is. Wait until they are at least 21 years of age before using them as source material. In short, if they look to be under 18 then don't post the image here.
Private Images - Any images posted of a personal nature, such as reported self images or those of others, which cannot be proven to the Admin to be posted with the permission of the person in the image will be removed. Proof will be provided in a means that the Admin will communicate to the image poster. If the image can be widely found on the internet, then it is fair game. If it cannot, then the image will be removed. Amateur porn site images are acceptable as they are not private images.
Sailor Moon and Disney Princesses - The entire series and characters are banned from the Collective. Cosplayers over 18 years of age can be posted, but any drawn images from the series are not acceptable.
Hate and Similar Themes - Themes such as racial hate, bestiality, death and other obviously unacceptable themes will be removed at the discretion of the Admin. Extremely distasteful subject matter, for example scat or similar themes, will be removed should it appear. As well, images which are reported to the Admin which are unacceptable will be removed.
Reposting Deleted Images: If a User deletes their work from the Collective, it is not permissible to repost their work. Images are posted on the Collective, or removed by the User who did so and has the right to do so. No one should assume they have the right to repost anything without permission.

Again, to be clear, Male/Male and Transgender themed works are acceptable.

If you wish to comment, you may do so in this thread.

Tera
Collective Admin

<minor typo correction: mod nikki>

iamnuff · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2014, 08:56:22 PM »

ok, most of that seems perfectly understandable, but i gotta ask.

what's up with the sailor moon ban? did you get threats of lawsuits or is it personal preference?

TeraS · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2014, 09:01:11 PM »

The Sailor Moon and Disney bans are because the original drawn characters are underage. As people have posted images from those series without realizing that there is a problem in that they are all, for the most part, under 18, we banned the series a long time ago for the sake of not having to deal with that issue every day at times.

Cosplay is fine if the cosplayer is obviously over 18 however.

Tera
Admin

cfada · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2014, 10:43:54 PM »

As a long time mod I have to say that this is a good move for us and should help us to collect contributions to pay the bills.

Can I take this chance to remind everybody that the new type of content might not be to everybodies liking. Please refrain from flaming or leaving negative comments. All of our images could be considered offensive to anybody.

If everybody uses tags correctly and puts commas in between it will make finding the images you want (and avoiding those you don't want) easier

Thanks
CantFindADecentAlias

loosegoose · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2014, 01:19:19 AM »

Quote from: cfada on March 28, 2014, 10:43:54 PM

Can I take this chance to remind everybody that the new type of content might not be to everybodies liking. Please refrain from flaming or leaving negative comments. All of our images could be considered offensive to anybody.
Thanks
CantFindADecentAlias

Indeedy. And flaming is pointless anyway, as it will be removed...along with the poster if they persist.

Silverkat · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2014, 03:11:13 AM »

<Hugs Sis Tightly> Well done.

Dr. X · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2014, 05:56:09 AM »

OK, so I'm sure the mods know the tag system and the functioning of the new gallery a lot better than me, so I'll just throw this out there.

If I want to filter results in such a way that I see only Male/Female or Female/Female pics (and exclude TG stuff as well), what should I be doing?

TeraS · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2014, 06:14:22 AM »

I will have to get back to you on that point Doc as I haven't tried that myself...

Tera

Zap · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2014, 09:01:05 AM »

Quote from: Dr. X on March 29, 2014, 05:56:09 AM

If I want to filter results in such a way that I see only Male/Female or Female/Female pics (and exclude TG stuff as well), what should I be doing?

Such an option would be awesome.

I wholeheartedly support the change, but would rather not flip through m/m and transgender pics in the New Forum Gallery. Tag filtering would be great.

Meleager · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2014, 03:46:45 PM »

Great changes! Making the Collective a more open and inclusive space is a very positive thing, in my opinion.

Bubblepopmei · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2014, 03:55:27 PM »

I'm glad to see this change.
I think filtering will be important. For my part, I'd like to filter out what they are calling "straight" content, and only see lesbian and trans content.

I know that this tagging system depends heavily on diligent posting. Perhaps creating a list of tag categories and have it be mandatory to select from that list might help? I'm not sure what the limitations are.

For my part, I'm much more concerned about the spamming of anime and "straight" rape content than whether or not two penises are in a picture rather than the apparently desirable 1.

Once your system is in place, I will be contributing trans content in addition to the lesbian and bimbo content that I already do. I appreciate that I can now have content related to me, a trans woman. Also one of the only people on the site willing to show her face. Funny thing.

benzor · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2014, 07:29:15 PM »

See it with mixed feelings. A filter system would be nice. Maybe with a short list of main tags like mm mf ff tg which should be obligate.

Everybody has his preferences which I respect but personally I don't want to see MM and TG.

So a tag filtering would be nice. Would give me the chance to hide all that anime stuff too.

Stratigenia · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2014, 07:35:27 PM »

Many image galleries like this have systems that allow Users to tag photos themselves using voting. Not sure what software the collective is using, but that may be a possibility. It usually leads to much more accurate tagging.

TeraS · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2014, 08:18:11 PM »

Having looked into the Gallery as it is right now, using tags to filter images isn't a viable option. I have contacted the developer to come up with that option ASAP. I will likely have to pay for this to be done. As such I will use my own funds, not that of the Collective to have this happen.

As soon as this is done, I will update you all on this issue.

Tera

loosegoose · « **Reply #14 on:** March 30, 2014, 12:26:06 AM »

Before we worry too much about a means of filtering stuff out and paying for whistles we don't know we need, why not just try my method. If a thumbnail doesn't appeal, I don't click on it. My eyeballs haven't fallen out yet.

Bubblepopmei · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2014, 02:42:51 AM »

Very good point goose.

Zap · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2014, 04:05:32 AM »

Quote from: loosegoose on March 30, 2014, 12:26:06 AM

Before we worry too much about a means of filtering stuff out and paying for whistles we don't know we need, why not just try my method. If a thumbnail doesn't appeal, I don't click on it. My eyeballs haven't fallen out yet.

My eyeballs regularly drop out at 4chan. (Usually it's no big deal, but occasionally they roll behind the refrigerator, and then it can be a real nuisance.

).

Seriously, I think this feature would be a fair use of Collective funds. Except the stockpile is a wee bit low at the moment...

Meleager · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2014, 06:54:29 PM »

I'm with goose. There's a lot on the Collective that doesn't appeal to me, and I've never felt oppressed by the fact that I can't curate a list of images that is perfectly aligned with my interests without potentially exposing my poor eyes to something that I might not be interested in. I think that the sovereign adults who frequent the gallery can all do the same.

Ravager · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2014, 10:01:03 PM »

Thank you.

Dr. X · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:45:07 AM »

OK, here's a cheaper suggestion: any way to make it that when you click on a tag (say, anime, FD, or MM as examples), you'd get results sorted most recent first? That way, parties interested only in certain sub-genres could experience the most recent pics that float their boat without having to complain that the opening page is "flooded" with artists/pics/genres they're not interested in. Would work the same as filters, even if you needed to bookmark several tags to encompass all your interests.

Bubblepopmei · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2014, 07:56:39 PM »

I would especially appreciate that. Tag filtration via date would greatly improve my hypnopics experience. I've been checking the site a lot more recently. Nothing to do while in hospital, but the overwhelming majority of content on the latest uploads is a huge turn off. If the tag search results could be ordered by date I would snuggle into those results forever and just entirely avoid the latest posts entirely.

dictionaryhash · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2014, 09:00:06 AM »

Disney Princesses are out, but what of Disney Queens? I have one idea for Snow White's Wicked Queen that's just waiting for the right images to crop up.

MCaesar · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2014, 09:38:13 AM »

Quote from: dictionaryhash on April 03, 2014, 09:00:06 AM

Disney Princesses are out, but what of Disney Queens? I have one idea for Snow White's Wicked Queen that's just waiting for the right images to crop up.

Similarly, someone mentioned that the sisters from Frozen were both 18+. I haven't been able to directly confirm it (what evidence I do have suggests it's true), but if it's true, are they still lumped in with the disallowed princesses?

Bubblepopmei · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2014, 09:50:47 AM »

I'm just totally confused about the announcement of trans and gay content inclusion side by side with banning of Disney content. I've just been giving benefit of doubt that this is not an insane gay equals pedo position. I'm really hoping this was just another in a list of content updates.

MCaesar · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2014, 10:11:33 AM »

Quote from: Bubblepopmei on April 03, 2014, 09:50:47 AM

I'm just totally confused about the announcement of trans and gay content inclusion side by side with banning of Disney content. I've just been giving benefit of doubt that this is not an insane gay equals pedo position. I'm really hoping this was just another in a list of content updates.

To my understanding, Tera is simply restating all policies, including a long-standing ban on manips with specific characters, while at the same time announcing policy changes. The recently-lifted ban on m/m and trans content and the ban on underage characters were instituted for very different reasons, so I sincerely doubt they have anything to do with one another. Those reasons essentially being "because the Collective admins didn't care for it," and "to cover the Collective's ass, legally," respectively.

Bubblepopmei · « **Reply #25 on:** April 03, 2014, 10:29:28 AM »

Thanks that confirms what I had hoped.
I'm not all that old to this website, myself and was paying very little attention until I began posting content. I hadn't realized Disney was already a no no, and I can appreciate why.

Quote from: MCaesar on April 03, 2014, 10:11:33 AM

Quote from: Bubblepopmei on April 03, 2014, 09:50:47 AM
I'm just totally confused about the announcement of trans and gay content inclusion side by side with banning of Disney content. I've just been giving benefit of doubt that this is not an insane gay equals pedo position. I'm really hoping this was just another in a list of content updates.

To my understanding, Tera is simply restating all policies, including a long-standing ban on manips with specific characters, while at the same time announcing policy changes. The recently-lifted ban on m/m and trans content and the ban on underage characters were instituted for very different reasons, so I sincerely doubt they have anything to do with one another. Those reasons essentially being "because the Collective admins didn't care for it," and "to cover the Collective's ass, legally," respectively.

loosegoose · « **Reply #26 on:** April 03, 2014, 02:39:34 PM »

Quote from: MCaesar on April 03, 2014, 10:11:33 AM

Those reasons essentially being "because the Collective admins didn't care for it," and "to cover the Collective's ass, legally," respectively.

It is that most of the "Disney Princesses" are underage and consequently off limits. Pure and simple

TeraS · « **Reply #27 on:** April 03, 2014, 05:33:57 PM »

Quote from: Bubblepopmei on April 03, 2014, 09:50:47 AM

I'm just totally confused about the announcement of trans and gay content inclusion side by side with banning of Disney content. I've just been giving benefit of doubt that this is not an insane gay equals pedo position. I'm really hoping this was just another in a list of content updates.

Disney princesses are underaged. Underaged content is banned. Period.

Do not make something of what has been a long time Collective and our hosting service's policy. Connecting what is banned to what is not is not, at all, correct. I restated previous policy so no one can say that underaged content is acceptable here now. It is not.

Tera
Admin

TeraS · « **Reply #28 on:** April 03, 2014, 05:36:54 PM »

Quote from: dictionaryhash on April 03, 2014, 09:00:06 AM

Disney Princesses are out, but what of Disney Queens? I have one idea for Snow White's Wicked Queen that's just waiting for the right images to crop up.

If it is of the Princesses, banned. The Queens, being over 18 would be okay, but if one Princess appears in a manip I'll ban everything to do with their movies.

Fair warning.

Tera
Admin

Bubblepopmei · « **Reply #29 on:** April 03, 2014, 05:51:03 PM »

Awesome, thanks for the clarification. I had no idea it was an already existing rule.

Quote from: TeraS on April 03, 2014, 05:33:57 PM

Quote from: Bubblepopmei on April 03, 2014, 09:50:47 AM
I'm just totally confused about the announcement of trans and gay content inclusion side by side with banning of Disney content. I've just been giving benefit of doubt that this is not an insane gay equals pedo position. I'm really hoping this was just another in a list of content updates.

Disney princesses are underaged. Underaged content is banned. Period.

Do not make something of what has been a long time Collective and our hosting service's policy. Connecting what is banned to what is not is not, at all, correct. I restated previous policy so no one can say that underaged content is acceptable here now. It is not.

Tera
Admin

Liriel · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2014, 05:53:53 AM »

Quote from: MCaesar on April 03, 2014, 09:38:13 AM

Quote from: dictionaryhash on April 03, 2014, 09:00:06 AM
Disney Princesses are out, but what of Disney Queens? I have one idea for Snow White's Wicked Queen that's just waiting for the right images to crop up.

Similarly, someone mentioned that the sisters from Frozen were both 18+. I haven't been able to directly confirm it (what evidence I do have suggests it's true), but if it's true, are they still lumped in with the disallowed princesses?

They are... Don't want to give the impression I think they should be fair game though. So very not ok. Anna is 18 and Elsa 21. I consider them still to be way the fuck off limits due to 1- being in a children's cartoon, and 2- Disney being litigious as hell. A number of others are also officially dubbed by Disney to be 18-19. Still creepy though.

Goes triple for Alice, Jasmine, And Snow White. Waaaaay underage.

Tipsy · « **Reply #31 on:** April 09, 2014, 03:46:42 PM »

A blanket ban of all Disney subjects seems like the easiest and simplest solution, and the one I'd prefer for a variety of reasons.

TeraS · « **Reply #32 on:** April 09, 2014, 08:06:53 PM »

It really would be a problem with the Kaa images we have...

Tera

benzor · « **Reply #33 on:** April 09, 2014, 08:24:31 PM »

What's about all the anime schoolgirls?

TeraS · « **Reply #34 on:** April 09, 2014, 10:37:42 PM »

Over 18, they are okay. Under is not. If not sure, do not post.

Tera

Tipsy · « **Reply #35 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:18:36 PM »

Quote from: TeraS on April 09, 2014, 08:06:53 PM

It really would be a problem with the Kaa images we have...

Tera

Do snakes live to eighteen?

TeraS · « **Reply #36 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:09:19 PM »

A question that I really haven't an answer for...

Tera

Tenebriousknight · « **Reply #37 on:** April 10, 2014, 08:36:20 PM »

As Kaa is presented in Kipling's book he's something like a 100 yrs old or so. As I don't recall Disney mentioning such details as Kaa's specific age I don't think we need worry. Yes folks the snake is a creepy old man.

loosegoose · « **Reply #38 on:** April 11, 2014, 03:38:45 AM »

Quote from: Tenebriousknight on April 10, 2014, 08:36:20 PM

Yes folks the snake is a creepy old man.

That's almost an obligatory component of your mind control story.

Jorin_Nine_Tunnels · « **Reply #39 on:** April 11, 2014, 07:40:35 AM »

If the thumbnail don't fit, you must acquit.

Or, err, something.

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